Things fall apart, the center cannot hold

Let no man deceive you with vain words.

          PART III, Petr Cibulka Interview, Spring 2005
Translated by Jan Malina
Edited by J.R. Nyquist

Q: Is it true that your international phone calls are hampered or interrupted along with your email correspondence?

Cibulka: The Czech Government took legal measures which allow oppressive elements within the state to invade the privacy of citizens without any restrictions. This is possible also through the full monopoly position of the Czech telecommunications market of the Czech phone company Czech Telecom, and through its agreements with cell phone operators like T-Mobile, Eurotel and Oskar, who have received their licenses under conditions that allows state power structures an unconditional and unlimited access to any or all phone and Internet traffic.

The Chief of the Czech Telecom Security Department is today the Deputy Czech Police President Antl, who has all wiretapping under his direct control. Antl used to be a communist prosecutor during the totalitarian dictatorship and after the 1968 Soviet occupation of Czechoslovakia. [Editor's note: This means he signed a paper saying that he agrees with the Soviet invasion and Soviet installed government, otherwise he wouldn't be able to continue to work as a prosecutor.]

Today it is easy for the rulers of the Czech Republic to intercept phone and Internet communications. The citizens under this criminal state have absolutely no way to defend themselves. This is why our political party is so hated, because we want to get rid of such conditions.

Q: We hear that the Czech Republic is a democracy, but you have often explained that things are not so simple.

We are being governed by the same political parties that were founded during the privatization coup of the KGB-GRU in 1989. Today, Czech citizens are so intimidated and scared that none dare testify in court and thereby incriminate our new rulers for political crimes. Election fraud is likely, and has doubtless been kept quiet by the mainstream media which is still run by the former totalitarian elite. Much of the time it seems to me that we've never left the communist era because even though the labels have changed the fundamental reality hasn't changed at all. 

Q: Does the state use its power to hinder your political movement? 

Cibulka: The last state run operation against the Right Bloc, just a few weeks ago, involved the freezing of our election bank account. This is the account from which we wanted to finance Uncensored News before the elections. Also, our motor vehicle was sabotaged when the antifreeze was drained from it this winter. As a result, the engine block froze and cracked. 

Q: Because of the new and so-called pro-democracy revolutions in former Soviet Republics like Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, is it possible that these sabotage operations against the Right Bloc are part of a similar false democracy operation to install phony democratic representatives who are by no means genuine?

Cibulka: Yes, I think you're right. The traditional communist strategy relies on a reliable political network of cadres, in this case "revolutionaries" who are already standing by in case the political leadership has to be changed. In this way the communists protect themselves during a transfer of political power. 

Because the Czech Republic's wealth has been embezzled and the country is in debt, the rulers expect some degree of social discontent, and that is why they're preparing these "revolutionary" cadres in advance today, so they are able to transfer their political power to them. But the real power will still remain in their hands. 

Under present conditions it will always be communist cadres who get control of government. The situation cannot be changed by the replacement of people. This criminal state of affairs can only be changed by transforming the country's values and the state structures themselves.

Q: In the back of your book there is a picture of you standing in front of a truck full of documents. What kind of documents were they and what was their significance?

Cibulka: The documents that we intercepted came from the communist archives and contained a lot of important information about communist politics after the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia. Our Uncensored News later used some of this data for its publications. The Civic Forum Information and Press Center in the city of Brno, which I was director of at the time, received a lot of phone calls from people who were telling us that the communists were packing documents at state offices. They were loading communist files on trucks and were moving them to places where these documents were being destroyed. We reacted quickly to one such call by dispatching several individuals who tried to intercept these documents before they could be destroyed. 

Q: The Czechoslovak communist secret police STB "Operation Norbert" was tasked with destroying the entire anti-communist opposition. The mechanism for this operation was tested just before the "collapse of communism" in Czechoslovakia. Can you tell us more?

Cibulka: These operations are still alive and well, and the operational methods developed are still available for use. 

Q: If Eastern Europe returned to communism, would the Czech Republic set up concentration camps and conduct mass executions among the opposition?

Cibulka: Communism doesn't have to return because it never left in the first place. While the people were enslaved during the openly communist era by communist terror, today they are enslaved by communists who have all the financial means in their hands. This new kind of slavery is much more potent and effective, and people don't even see it or realize what has happened to them.

All newspapers and journals are telling the citizens that this is what freedom and democracy looks like. People don't want to rise up against freedom and democracy. But if living conditions fell, and there was an uprising, thousands of well-trained cadres would go into action. At the end of the day, if post-communist methods failed to satisfy, those in charge would not hesitate to use terror and mass executions. If America is not able to understand this, then America has never understood communism. 

Q: Is there any indication that the communists want to begin a new reign of terror? 

Cibulka: The communists follow only one goal. They want to have absolute power. They will use any method that guarantees absolute power.

For example, officer of the STB [secret police] Ludvik Zifcak, a Communist Party Chairman, on November 11, 2004, in an interview with Lidove Noviny newspaper stated that the communists will take over the state and blood will flow. The communists are heavily involved in the governing process today. But the hard-line core must share power [with the bourgeoisie] for the time being. The members of the Communist Party are under deep cover within the state sector today, and are involved in the special services. They cannot work as openly as before, as Zifcak has stated. When they see their opportunity they will substitute their words for deeds.  

Q: Are the communists slowly subverting the world, converting other countries to their system? 

Cibulka: In every situation the communists select a tactic that will lead them to victory. It only depends on the actual situation. Their possibilities are virtually unlimited. If they are able to gain power without a fight, there won't be a fight. But if this is impossible to do, the communists will use terror. If terror won't bring them the victory, they will provoke world war.

Part IV will be featured Next Week

Biographical background

Petr Cibulka was born in 1950 in the city of Brno, in the province of Moravia. As a five-time political prisoner, Mr. Cibulka did hard time in the toughest communist prison camp in Czechoslovakia. He was repeatedly jailed between 1979 and 1989 and conducted a 31-day hunger strike in 1979. 

In 1991 Mr. Cibulka began publishing his paper, Uncensored News, opposing the "official" informational blockade organized by the communists through their "soft" control of the mass media. In 1992 Mr. Cibulka acquired and published data from secret police files, including the names of over 200,000 communist spies and collaborators. Subsequently he became a target of aggressive attacks from "former" communist officials.

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